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Re: The Chariot

Ross wrote: Not all of the trump subjects, though; I think the Traitor or Hanged Man was not something you'd see in a procession. It was something Italians, and particularly Florentines, would recognize as a shame painting, taken from the "street" or daily life, rather than from a figure in the para...

Re: The Chariot

Mike wrote: My view is that Prudence probably was originally in the deck, with the mirror and snake. We have 4 virtues (with octogonal halo) designed in the Charles VI, 3 are clearly recognizable as such, the fourth shows up as "missing Prudentia" with apple and scepter and standing on a city shield...

Re: Omissions and Errors in translation of Papus's "Tarot Divinatoire"

I cannot answer your question, huck, about the page number until I see the French of the second edition of Tarot des Bohemiens. It is not in the English translation of the 1889, nor would I expect it to be in the French of 1889. II only know that it is, however, on p. 187 of Tarot Divinatoire Sorry...

Re: The Chariot

... :-) ... it's true, that I repeated the argument about the Justice-Fame in PMB it's not true, that I repeated the argument about the Fame card in Cary-Yale, at least not in this thread. Naturally it is a repeated argument from other places here in the forum, it's common behavior as writers appear...

Re: The Chariot

.... :-) ... nice, but for the usual English reader likely Kaplan was responsible. The Trionfi.com version of Cary-Yale-with-Fame was self-developed and existed at least since 2003 (FAME at the lower left chessboard field) ... http://trionfi.com/0/c/35/ http://trionfi.com/0/c/35/p/reconstruction.jpg...

Re: The Chariot

Nathaniel wrote: In the week since I wrote my post above, my views have changed in one important detail: I am now inclined to think that the Ur-tarot quite possibly did not contain all six Petrarchan Triumphs. I think it may only have contained five, with Fame (earthly Fame that is, Gloria Mundi) ab...

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