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Re: The three Zodiac cards in Noblet, and the Gemini in books of hours

Here is the idea of some sort of garden trellis that the lovers stand in front of. I plan to draw in the lovers and then as much of the trellis as their bodies don't cover, and hope you can still tell it is meant to be a trellis. background art RH595.png The worst problem is that the upper stick see...

Re: The trump labels of France

I imagine that if it has labels for Vieville, they are based on the names of the cards used in the poem on the Ace of Coins and Two of Cups which gives us the names of the cards as: Oops. Well this changes everything. I overlooked the writing on the ace of coins and two of cups. Back to the drawing...

The trump labels of France

This is a post in the Tarocchi Goes West series, but not about any particular trump. It is about the labels on French tarot cards, as opposed to the images on them. I will post it in four parts. Noblet's labels. Noblet copied 16 trumps, plus the fool, so closely from Viéville you can hardly tell the...

Re: Tarocchi goes west

Thanks so much for this. I have gotten pretty good with the "advanced search" at Gallica, but I knew nothing of Madragore. For the manuscripts in libraries in France other than the BnF, I have found a very good index called La Bibliothèque virtuelle des manuscrits médiévaux here: https://bvmm.irht.c...

Re: The three Zodiac cards in Noblet, and the Gemini in books of hours

I am not satisfied with any explanation for the two sticks: they are my worst sticking point. My only thought is that since there are two of them, it makes most sense to see them as related. If the lower one is a sort of garden border, then the upper one may be part of the same thing. There are lots...

Re: Which of the three regional trump orders, was the original?

I like the idea of the eight emperors being an emperor and empress for each suit. (And a lot of other great stuff in this post (mikeh's), such as the arrest for playing triumphs in a poor section of town). In this passage The name "four papi" can easily be explained by the heavy hand of the Church a...

Re: The three Zodiac cards in Noblet, and the Gemini in books of hours

I did warn you my artistic skill is not high. Here is my reconstruction of the Cary sheet Sun card. Scan of Cary sun as Gemini RH597.png I doubt the real card was quite so explicit. I wanted to check out the anatomy for plausibility first, and then try to draw in flapping cloth to cover things. My b...

Re: The three Zodiac cards in Noblet, and the Gemini in books of hours

I will attempt a picture, with my poor skills. I like the idea of the shoulder strap as connected with clothing. On the subject of Zodiac and planets, I am finding more and more confirmation of an association between the Moon and Cancer, of the right date for Noblet. For example: Iatromathematisches...

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